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  JW visiting JWs in hospitals

  by I quit! in

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  i am just heading out to see my sister-in-law (jw) in the hospital.

  i have been goinging there to see her the last 5 days.

  twice while i was there i met jws who weren't anyone she had met before.

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  Each congregation selects one of the elders to be a hospital liason. He is assigned to visit the local hospital on a daily bases. They will find out that your sister in law is in hospital if she has put down her religion on the registration form when she booked in. This information is put on the hospital patient register, the elder visiting each hospital has access to that file and therefore checks to see if any jw's are in that particular hospital.

  (PS. They are probably just checking if any j dubs are having a blood transfusion )
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  Confused Jehovah's Witnesses Still Believe In Watchtower Interpretation

  by minimus in

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  i had an interesting conversation with my mom and she glowed about how "wonderful" the public talk was on sunday.

  the brother talked about bible prophecy "was" being fulfilled "for the future">>> huh??

  the "king of the north" would be exposed just as jehovah's people have been saying in our day!

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  They really are confused!! About 3 years ago the circuit overseer stated in his talk to stop speculating about who is the king of the north, as this prophecy had already been fulfilled. He said we have now moved on to the final stages of Daniels prophecy and that we are only waiting for the 8th king (the UN) to turn on religion.

  They are certainly painting themselves into a corner.
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  Which meetings did you hate the most?

  by JH in

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  out of the 5 weekly meetings, here are the ones i hated the most.. in order.

  1. theocratic ministry school ( i hated speaking in public) got me so nervous.. 2. service meeting ( too much crap and statistics and presentations).

  3. the book study ( just a waist of time ).

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  In this order;

  1. Theocratic Ministry School ( Just plain old boring, felt for those poor nervous folks up there )
  2. Watchtower Study ( Hated the study conductors smart arse remarks aimed at those who would'nt answer )
  3. Book Study ( Depended if there was a cup of tea & cake afterwards )
  4. Service Meeting ( Looked forward to see what local needs talk they would come up with, something we could have a great big laugh about after. This was the meeting they would come down on all the bad things we were doing)
  5. Public Talk ( If it was an interesting subject like the talk on sex and marriage, ha, ha.)
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  DID YOU KNOW THIS about the BIBLE?

  by Terry in

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  the oldest manuscripts are not considered the most reliable.. there are no "autograph" texts.

  none.. there are no "original" manuscripts.. no two manuscripts agree.. the bible as we know it only came together in the form it now holds because certain men decided it should do so.. neither jesus nor his apostles or disciples carried bibles.. the apostle paul didn't carry a bible and none of his letters were in any of the scrolls considered holy scripture at the time he was preaching and forming christian theology as it is now understood to be.. largely, what the bible is today, is the result of certain men with certain agendas who had the authority to make their project happen.

  they also had the power to destroy writings which did not agree with their agenda.

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  Excellent post Terry.

  After researching the history of the bible for the past five years, I have come to the same conclusion as yourself . Its a shame that more people don't put in the effort and research the origins of the bible and christianity, they would be surprised. The Dead Sea Scrolls also help to shed a lot of light on the history of the bible. Isn't it amazing how the religions write off the so called Gnostic books, yet the bible quotes from these books in a number of places. An example of this is how the bible book of Jude blantantly quotes from the Gnostic book of Enoch, which if you have read it is quite bizarre, yet the churches including the jw's do not acknowledge it. So if it is good enough for Jude to quote from, why isn't it in the bible canon? Answer , because once again this book did not fit in with the teachings of the church. Also what about the Gnostic book "The Revelation of Peter" this book was originally chosen to be the finial book in the bible canon in place of the current book of Revelation that we now have. However, "The Revelation of Peter" had a softer viewpoint on hell, again not suiting the churches teaching of eternal torment in hell, so they dropped it in favour of the book of Revelation we have today.

  After all is said and done the bible was put together and used to instill fear into people allowing the religious and political leaders at the time to control the people, this has continued to be exploited up to our time.

  Nevertheless, everyone is entitled to there opinion, thats what makes this discussion board so great. If believing in the bible and the ransom gives you hope and keeps you going day after day well thats great. As for me even though I believe the bible is just another history book, a bad one at that, written by men and not inspired by God. Meantime I still hope that there is more to life then just our short pitiful existence now, however, I no longer worry about the future I just enjoy each day of life as it comes.
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  Isn't It Time That The Americans Learned How To Enjoy Cricket?

  by Englishman in

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  you guys don't know what you're missing.

  now, take the present ashes competition.

  england and australia square up to one another with a series of the best of 5 test matches.

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  I think they might have a problem understanding the games terminology;

  Maiden over, Golden duck, Silly point, Hat trick, runs a single, etc.
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  Do JWs give you the creeps?

  by sonnyboy in

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  i'm not sure if anyone else has experienced this, but i've recently begun to get the willies when i'm around an active jehovah's witness.

  this didn't happen until after i started posting here.. when i stop by my parents' house on a saturday morning and the witnoids show up, i get a sinking feeling in my stomach....a mix between sickness, fear, and anger.

  i used to try and put on a happy face and be sociable when they came in, but now i just wave goodbye and as i'm walking out.

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  I know the feeling sonnyboy. This particularly happens when I see my parents which is very seldom these days. I get that sick feeling in my stomach and sit on the edge for the entire visit. I even have a hard time picking up the phone to say hello because you are always waiting for there sarcastic remarks to be spoken. However, when I occasionally come across old jw friends including family, I will always make the point in a subtle way of how happy we are and let them see that there is life outside the org. Many of them are of the belief that when you leave you become the devil, so by showing them that you are living a normal happy life, you just may get to think about life outside of the org. You just feel pity for most jw's who are trapped in this cult and just hope that one day they will wake up and see it for what it is.
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  What Things Did You Never Really Comprehend As A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  i never could clearly explain the "faithful slave's domestics", as the watchtower tries to.

  i would quote the publications but i did not believe that the explanation was at all satisfactory......was there anything you just couldn't "get"?

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  How almost every story and so called prophecies in the old or new testament had a

  fulfillment in the early 1900's (1914 - 1935). The Isaiah and Daniel publications were good for

  this. And what about the Revelation book, almost every second verse was related to having been

  fulfilled 1914 - 1935 period, I was never able to comprehend there reasoning in those matters.
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  Do You EVER---Even A Little Bit----Miss Being A Witness???

  by minimus in

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  ever??

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  No never. Not even a little bit.
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  Sep 15th WT: Christians spend weekends enjoying recreation and not service

  by truthseeker in

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  in a recent post, sir82 wrote that a trainee missionary attending the school of gilead emailed the following..

  "it was brought out that christendom and the world smacks of .

  baalism today.

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  The little boy waving in the back ground reminds me of myself when I was a child. Being lead around and

  told that this is what god wants from you. I remember being so jealous of other children at school whom

  on the weekends enjoyed all the recreational activities. Whilst my recreation was knocking on peoples

  doors and having brain washing sessions on Sunday. But my family is sure making up for all that lost

  time now.

  PS. I reckon the little boy in the picture is saying, TAKE ME, TAKE ME!!!!!

  
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  Sep 15th WT: At it again: WT says elements in the UN will attack religion

  by truthseeker in

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  it seems that the watchtower has not learnt any lessons regarding their involvement in the united nations.

  perhaps they think the outcry that a few witnesses made a couple of years ago has died down.

  they have been silent about the united nations for about 3 years until they published an article in the sep 15th watchtower, "walk by faith, not by sight!

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  Well I suppose they have to keep the expectation of the old timers going. In reality the majority of religions,

  except for the extremist, do more to promote peace & unity throughout the world today. The governments know

  that if they took religion away from the people then you would have worldwide kaos. It amazes me how the J dubs

  continue to swallow this crap. It reminds me of a C.O. vist we had about 3 years ago (my last), he went on and on about

  some "New Light" in that the UN was now the 8th king and that we no longer need to worry about who is the king of the north

  as this has now been fulfilled. A few months after this statement I was reading one of Rutherford's old books and guess what,

  Rutherford had already stated back in the early 1900's that the League of Nations was the 8th king!!!! So much for new light,

  but at the end of the day how many in the org would remember this statement from Rutherfords day?